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762x51 1919amen |
This was posted on gunkitbuilders@yahoogroups.com last night... U.S. Department of Justice United States Attorney ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Headquarters: NEWS RELEASE CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- United States Attorney Robert J. Conrad, Jr., According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand are German According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand also owned and The indictment also alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand and The indictment includes a Notice of Forfeiture that asks that the If convicted, the defendants face maximum statutory penalties as noted The indictment is the result of a two-year investigation by special Bob Conrad, United States Attorney for the Western District of North DEFENDANTS ARE ENTITLED TO A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE UNDER THE LAW, ULRICH H. WIEGAND OLIVER M. WIEGAND IP: Logged |
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christopher_williams1 1919amen |
As far as I know, this is old news. This is the big stink about the firearms (PPSH's I think) that the FBI or ATF went to everyones house and confiscated the trunion and front receiver housing. The way this works (from what I've heard) is that when they purchase guns, they come into the country in complete condition (actual machine guns). They are then transferred into a special warehouse that they own which is registered with the ATF. They demill the guns here, then an ATF agent inspects the demilled firearms and signs them out to one of their general warehouses. Apparently the revceivers did not abide by the new ATF demill procedures requiring that the receiver be torch cut in 3 places. The ATF must have originally signed off on the transfer though, or they would have never made it out of the first warehouse. Chris IP: Logged |
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dragoon11 1919amen |
My receiver was cut to ATF standards 3 cuts. this comes from the rule that I/o bought these from Russia and Russia did not own them or have possesion of them long enough to claim ownership. I think that is what is up. This is just the governmet trying to bully a gun company into submission. My .02 IP: Logged |
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Boomer 1919amen |
NEWS RELEASE February 5, 2004 Damn, I hate to see this. IP: Logged |
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mspurg 1919amen |
dragoon11 and others:
"According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand also owned and controlled two foreign companies Wiegand Ordnance GmbH, located in Witten, Germany and Interordnance Waffenhandel GmbH, located in Ferlach, Austria, which were used by Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand to illegally import Russian-made PPSH 41 machinegun component parts (parts, yes, but NOT MGS!!!!!) into the United States for subsequent sale by Interordnance of America. In addition, the indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand also illegally imported FN FAL IMBEL and STEYR MP69 machineguns. The indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand imported the machinegun component parts knowing that the machineguns had not been destroyed according to ATF specifications (a damn LIE!!!). Further, the indictment alleges that Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand sold these machineguns as parts kits to customers throughout the United States knowing that the component parts could be assembled as functional machineguns (a damn F*CKING lie!!!!!!). According to the indictment, Ulrich and Oliver Wiegand, through Interordnance of America, sold over 2000 PPSH 41, over 1000 FN FAL IMBEL and over 500 STEYR MP69 machineguns (a DAMN F*CKING lie) to customers throughout the United States without conducting any background checks (parts kits DO NOT need a background check as they are NOT a functional firearm, another damn F*CKING LIE) and without recording any ownership registration information with the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record." I had one of the PPsh41 kits (NOT a machinegun!!!!) that was SUPPOSED to be picked up by the ATF. It was NOT a machine gun!!! In fact, it did NOT include the cut up receiver parts, so there was NO WAY in hell that it could be classified as a "machine gun"!!! I had, at that time an OO (Ohio Ordnance) PPsh41 kit. I compared the two kits part for part and they were identical!!! The ONLY difference was that IO had cut up the barrel shroud to shreds!!!! My receiver was cut to ATF standards 3 cuts. this comes from the rule that I/o bought these from Russia and Russia did not own them or have possesion of them long enough to claim ownership. I think that is what is up. This is just the governmet trying to bully a gun company into submission. My .02 [/QUOTE] [This message has been edited by mspurg (edited 02-06-2004).] IP: Logged |
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cisco 1919amen |
This crap about "structured cash deposits in less than $10,000...", is just that..CRAP!!!How much longer are we going to put up with this Big Brother shit? I supose if they had made eposits in EXESS of $10,000., they would be bitching about that too. Why the gall of them using their profits to pay bussiness expenses like Importation Expenses,Income Tax Expenses, and to top it off...sending their money to a German bank account....to think: Germans sending THEIR money to their bank account in Germany!!!!THE BASTARDS HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! AMERICA is going into the toilet. IP: Logged |
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