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12-23-2008, 09:52 AM
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OOW 1917 Barrels
Hi Guys,
Not sure were to put this, so I figured I'll try here.
I recieved a couple of the OOW 1917 barrels to see if I could do anything with the threads on the muzzle and noticed something.. They're really set up for the Colt 28 guns.. They've got 12 barrel locking slots instead of the 16 slots that are on A4's and 1917's...
This might be a problem when head spaceing. If we follow the standard of backing off two clicks, this might be a bit too much ?????? Anybody with any input or thoughts would be welcome.....Lou
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12-23-2008, 12:29 PM
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Lou, that's a very good question. I have never had one of the Colt's barrels, but I assume the notch design was intended for the unique barrel lock on those 1928 barrel extensions. It's a different animal, for sure.
But I think the Colt's guns were chambered in 30-06 as well as the Argentine round. My guess is that one to two clicks might be fine. I know some who use three on the military barrels, so I would think two would be safe on these. Do you have a GI headspace gauge to use to compare the two? Or just use feeler gauges, really. Might make for an interesting experiment to see how two clicks compares between the two notch patterns.
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12-23-2008, 12:52 PM
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I don't know much about these barrels. Is the thread pitch the same? If not that may make up for the the differance in the number of notches.
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12-23-2008, 02:53 PM
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I've been told that those barrels were Argentine that were rechambered. If that's true, you're muzzles will be a little loose, probably, compared to a genuine USGI 30.06 barrel
Good luck
Rob
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12-23-2008, 03:24 PM
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I'll betcha a candy cane...
.... That if you check the bbl with a bullet test you'll find it's 7.65 (.311) bore on those "30-06"s.  Chris
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12-23-2008, 05:11 PM
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...atta boy...
Good critque,Lucky. If anybody can sort this out,Lou should be able to answer this one. Crank up a couple of those 1917's,Lou. Give us a measure of the difference between two clicks on the 1928 bbl. and the two notches of a 1917 Colt style bbl. Thought about getting one of these bbl's too....but have Lou's reworked ones from 1919 bbl's. If the Colt 1928 30/06 has these different notches....would the 7.65 Arg 1928 bbl's also be the same...? Thats my question....as I'd like to be able to shoot 7.65 Arg in my 1917 too.....
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12-23-2008, 08:10 PM
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2 clicks
two clicks worked on my 28 in 3006
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12-24-2008, 12:16 PM
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Well ....
Pulled out my thread guage and I found the 1917/19 bbls are 16 threads per inch. 16 tpi and 16 notches per rev. equals 256 clicks per inch , or appx. 3.9 thousand per. 16tpi and 12 notches per rev equals 192 clicks per inch , or appx 5.2 thousand per. Or you could say 4 americian equals 3 on arg.
HTH Chris
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12-24-2008, 12:41 PM
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Three of us bought 28 kits from OOW a year ago and noticed the same barrel config. I asked the guys at OOW about the threads and they said it was for a blank firing device? We also suspected that the barrels were Argentine 7.65 and rechambered for .30-06, OOW would not confirm or deny that question.
CT
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12-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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When I asked....
...them at SAR show , they were right up front about it. Doesn't say anything in thier ads though. Chris
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