Case 1. Original MG08/15 brought home in WWI and registered in 1934. Clearly original gun. Currently on form 4.
Case 2. Original MG08/15 brought home in WWI, unregistered until 1970s. Dealer "manufactured it" which really means he just registered it without demilling/rewelding the receiver, which was technically illegal... however one can't tell from current form 4.
The only way to tell the difference is a FOIA request. Otherwise its fair to assume both guns are C&R guns. What I was asking it if ignorance is bliss... if you don't know why not just assume its a C&R gun? I did not know the ATF was checking this when the form 4 C&R was submitted. However it does make sense now why the ATF once told me one of my Maxims was registered in 1941 and then went through an impossible series of Form 3, 4, and 5 with no form 1 or 2s in between. I don't think they were suppose to tell me the later part of that. Anyway, its almost impossible for someone to know this info without a FOIA request. So are you suggesting that all MG owners start getting FOIA requests in for their MGs? I mean I received 2 of my Maxims on C&R transfers, so they should be good assuming the ATF Checked them during the transfer. The M11 I know is a 1986 gun, so that will be the last MG to become C&R. I am not sure on my M16 but that does not matter value wise and I would certainly need to find out for a C&R transfer. Well lets hope the Jap Type 96 I have coming goes through... It will cost a year of time if the Form 4 C&R does not work and I am forced into a Form 3 and Form 4... plus a more money.